Problem with porf forwarding, help please

[johnjohnsonver]

Hello,

I've tried to forward my port.

When I type 192,168,1,1 , nothing appears.

Can somebody help me, please

[clanmills]

Hey J

You'll have to tell us a little more so we can help you. IP address are dott'ed, not comma'ed 192.168.1.1 and where are you typing this?

I've written an article about port-forwarding. A word for the wise: you'll probably need a good deal of enthusiasm, perseverance and determination to get port-forwarding to work.

Anyway, have a read at the article and we'll try to help you from there: http://clanmills.com/articles/portforwarding/

Robin

[0siris]

I know that some devices will want IP Addresses expressed octet by octet, with commas separating each one, but in general, that's not usually how an IP address is expressed. Outside of those devices (and they are relatively rare, as I recall), an IP address and port are expressed like this:

192.168.1.1:21

192,168.1.1 is the IP address, 21 is the port. And many home devices, especially those you can setup using a Web browser, will have a completely separate blank for identifying the port number.

Perhaps if you provided some additional detail, someone could give you some step-by-step help? What is it you're trying to do this for? Gaming? Web server? FTP? Something else? And what device is going to do the forwarding (make and model#, please)?

[johnjohnsonver]

hello, I used pfconfig to forward my port for utorrent 20990,

here is what I did:

under "default applications", I've selected utorrent -> forward this app -> this computer (default option) -> next -> my port 20990 in TCP and UDP -> finish, after that update router,
but an error occurred:

error 2 :
We could not find that router in our databese.Please tell our support team that you tried to update router ID.

I still see the red icon in my utorrent.

I tried run cmd ipconfig, and I see my default gateway is 10.0.0.1, when I enter that in my firefox, I see this:
" Hey, it worked !
The SSL/TLS-aware Apache webserver was
successfully installed on this website.

If you can see this page, then the people who own this website have just installed the Apache Web server software and the Apache Interface to OpenSSL (mod_ssl) successfully. They now have to add content to this directory and replace this placeholder page, or else point the server at their real content.

ATTENTION!
If you are seeing this page instead of the site you expected, please contact the administrator of the site involved. (Try sending mail to <webmaster@domain>.) Although this site is running the Apache software it almost certainly has no other connection to the Apache Group, so please do not send mail about this site or its contents to the Apache authors. If you do, your message will be ignored.

The Apache online documentation has been included with this distribution.
Especially also read the mod_ssl User Manual carefully.

Your are allowed to use the images below on your SSL-aware Apache Web server.
Thanks for using Apache, mod_ssl and OpenSSL! "

what to do next?

[wimiadmin]

You're right in trying to hit the gateway of IP 10.0.0.1 if that is in fact your routers IP.

The apache page you got is not correct however, which leads me to believe that either the 10.0.0.1 is not the IP of your router, or if you're running a windows system, your hosts file is directing that IP to somewhere else on your network.

If your computers IP is 192.168.1.x then your router will most likely be 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.254 by default from the factory.

I previously had the same problem you did with the little red x in uTorrent. I did a port forward and that fixed the problem. However, after a while I stopped forwarding those ports because I moved my network to DHCP vs. static IPs.....we travel a lot and it was a pain having to reassign the IP every time we came back up and unassign the IP every time we got to a hotel. Long story short, we still use uTorrent without port forwarding and not little red x or yellow caution sign appear. Not sure why they don't appear but they don't. Have you updated to the latest version of uTorrent?

[johnjohnsonver]

here are my results, if somebody can help, I'll be very thankful.

windows ip configuration

host name ... pc
primary dns suffix ...
nide type ... unknown
ip routing enabled ... no
wins proxy enabled ... no


Ethernet adapter local area connection 2

connection-specific dns suffix ...
description ... realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical address ... 00-13-8F-B2-97-3C
dhcp enabled ... no
ip address ... 10.1.97.170
subnet mask ... 255.255.0.0
default gateway ... 10.0.0.1
dns server ... 217.79.66.2

[MoonPoint]

Since the "default gateway" address is 10.0.0.1, that is likely your router's internal IP address.

It doesn't strike me as odd that your router would be running webserver software, such as Apache. Many routers today have webserver software in them to allow users to easily configure the router through a Graphical User Interface (GUI). And I've seen the default Apache webpage you describe many times. I've usually seen it when a webserver is configured to host a website such as www.example.com, but the person configuring the webserver software didn't change the settings in Apache's configuration file, httpd.conf, to have the webserver show a specific home page whenever just the IP address is used to contact the server. So, by default, one would get the Apache webpage you described.

However, like wimiadmin, I do find it odd that you would see that default webpage when accessing your router via its internal IP address. E.g., it's quite common for a router manufacturer to have users configure the router by just putting in "http://" followed by the router's IP address, e.g. http://10.0.0.1. Though sometimes you have to follow that with a specific port number or perhaps, in this case you are expected to use HTTPS, instead, i.e. https://10.0.0.1. Try that latter address from your web browser (you can type it in or just click on the link in this posting). Does the latter link give you a configuration page for the router?

If you can provide the manufacturer and model of the router, it might be useful in helping you resolve the problem, if a configuration change is needed for the router. If I knew the model of your router, I might be able to tell you how the manufacturer expects you to configure it through a web browser.

If you don't know the model of the router, if it isn't on the front of the router, look on the back of the router or the underside of the router for the model number.

Also, please double-check your IP address, subnet mask, and gateway address again. I think you've made a typo in one of those when you posted them. If you have that IP address and subnet mask, I wouldn't expect you could even reach the router via a wired connection to the router with the address you provided for the router.

Is it also possible, you are using a wireless connection to reach your router? If so, you didn't provide the network information for your wireless connection. The information you provided was for a wired connection and, as I mentioned, there appears to be a discrepancy in the information you provided.

[johnjohnsonver]

hi thank you so much for your answer

I don't have a router

[MoonPoint]

There must be some device that can be considered sitting at the demarcation point between your local network and your Internet Service Provider (ISP). If you are asking about a connection at your home, then you may have a cable or DSL modem, unless you are using a dial-up connection to your ISP.

If you have a cable or DSL modem, what model do you have? Or are you inquiring about a problem you have with a system that is at a work or other location than your home?

And did you make a typo in the information you provided previously. E.g. you listed an IP address of 10.1.97.170. Does it actually begin with "10.0" rather than "10.1". Because, otherwise, the IP address, subnet mask, and gateway address don't seem to be consistent. Can you actually get to sites on the Internet from the system?

It's hard to tell where your problem might lie from the little information you have provided. Sometimes in tracing the source of a problem, you need to eliminate potential sources of a problem in order to pinpoint the exact cause. It's also helpful, if one isn't where the equipment is located to know the local network configuration.

[johnjohnsonver]

thanks very much for your help.

no everything is correct, I don't have modem have lan.

Actually my utorrent can seed but very slow, because the red icon is on.It should be green.

[MoonPoint]

A Local Area Network (LAN) is a segment of an Ethernet network that may be connected to other such segments by a network bridge or switch. If you are talking about a LAN at your home, then you might have only one computer or you might have several. They would typically be connected to a network switch or often to a router provided by a home user's Internet provider that has multiple ports so that you can connect all of your home computers to that one device, which then has a port typically labelled "Wide Area Network (WAN)" or "Internet".

A LAN by itself won't provide you a way to reach systems outside the LAN, such as systems on the Internet. You need some device to provide connectivity beyond your LAN. For medium to large businesses that will normally be a router. For small businesses or home users that may be a router or it may be just a DSL or cable modem.

If there is not a router or modem, then you aren't going to be able to reach the Internet. Since you say that utorrent is working, but slow, which indicates that you can reach the Internet, then there is a modem or router at your location.

If you issue the "ipconfig" command on a Windows system, then the IP address you see for the "default gateway" is typically the router or modem, though it doesn't have to be, e.g. it could be another PC on your network that has the connection to the Internet and is sharing it with the one you are using.

If you have a network cable connected to your computer, where does it go? Does it just go into a port on the wall or does it go into some other device. If it goes into some other device, that will usually be a network hub, switch, modem, or router. If it goes into another device that you can see, what is that device?

If you don't know what a network cable looks like, click here to see a picture of the type of cable that is tyically used today. There is an older Thinnet type of cable, but I would expect you would have the type shown in the Wikipedia article showing the Category 5 (Cat5) cable with an RJ45 connector on the end.

In order for your system to communicate with the default gateway system it should be in the same subnet as that gateway system. The IP address for your system plus the subnet mask value determines what systems are on the same subnet as your system.

You say the IP address, subnet mask, and default gateway address you listed in a previous posting are correct, yet the default gateway address is not in the same subnet as the IP address you provided for the system, which is why I suggested you double-check them. That is why I think you made a typo or your system is using some other network device in the system other than the one for which you provided IP information. Or there is something unusual about your configuration that may be contributing to your problem. Are you absolutely sure that the IP address, subnet mask, and default gateway adress are as you listed before?

Note: you don't have to retype the information, which I think you did before since you misspelled "node type". You can copy and paste the information by opening a command prompt window, then clicking in the upper-left hand corner of the window (over the tiny "C:\" in the upper-left hand corner of the window), which should reveal options, one of which is "edit". Click on "edit", then select "mark". Then drag the mouse pointer down over the block of text you wish to copy, while holding down the left mouse button until you've higligted the pertinent block of text. When you've got the block of text highlighted, hit enter. That will put the text in Windows' clipboard. You can then paste it into a posting here or elsewhere by hitting the Ctrl and "V" keys simultaneously.

It also struck me as unusual that you are using a static IP address for the system, since you listed "dhcp enabled...no", if this is a home system, since most home users who don't understand networking typically stick with a DHCP address provided by their router or modem. Though perpaps you are at a business or school location, where someone else is responsible for the router or other gateway device, which is why you aren't aware of the presence of a router or modem at that location. I'm assuming someone else set up the IP configuration for your system.

You don't have to reveal exactly where your system is located, but are you on a LAN where you are sharing network service with a lot of other people such as at a school or business location? If you are, it is possible that network personnel have taken deliberate measures to slow the performance of certain applications, such as file sharing applications.

Is your performance always slow? I.e. do you sometimes see a green icon rather than a red icon? Is the icon only red when you use a particular tracker? If you only have the problem with a particular tracker that could be a network or server congestion problem related to that particular system rather than anything that can be fixed at your end.

E.g., that other system may be overloaded handling traffic from too many other users. The problem might only be fixed by the owners of that system purchasing a more powerful system or a faster connection to the Internet.

Poor network performance can be due to a lot of reasons. It could be on your end, it could be at the end where the server resides with which you are communicating, or it could be due to network congestion at some router in between your system and the other system. There might be a dozen or more routers in between your system and the other system.

The Internet Protocol (IP) includes a troubleshooting protocol ICMP, which can help you pinpoint the source of network slowdowns, if, indeed, the problem is not at your end. Windows includes a command, tracert, that uses ICMP which can show you all of the systems between your system and another system. If you only have problems with one tracker and you know its IP address, open a Windows command prompt window and type "tracert" followed by the IP address of that system, such as below, if the system's IP address was 192.20.5.6

tracert 192.20.5.6

You will see numbered lines appear with 3 times listed in milliseconds for each line along with the IP address of the systems along the network path between you and the other system. At the end of each line will be the IP address of a system. The times represent how long it took the system at that "hop" along the network path to respond to an ICMP packet. Your system will send 3 packets to each system so you should see responses on each line.

On line 1 you will see the first network hop, which is typically your router or modem, then the next router's IP address, and so on. If the numbers are low up to a particular point and then suddently jump up to a much higher number, say going from 70 ms to 800 ms, then that tells you where the slow down is occurring, perhaps because of network congestion (think of it like congestion on a road due to car traffic, only it may be due to a lot of people sending/receiving data through that router).

It's possible that tracert won't show you the complete path, because some times ICMP traffic is blocked or routers don't respond to ICMP traffic, or give it a very low priority, but tracert can be a useful troubleshooting tool.

Without further information, it would be hard to help you isolate the problem without writing even more, which might or might not be applicable in your particular case. So I'll stop here. I'm just trying to point out with the above information that there are many possible souces for the problem you are experiencing. Unless you provide more details, it's difficult to do more than suggest a few of the many possibilities for the problem you are experiencing and it's not possible to know beforehand whether a suggestion may be relevant in your case.

[johnjohnsonver]

MoonPoint THANK YOU SO MUCH

"If you are talking about a LAN at your home, then you might have only one computer or you might have several."

I have one home pc.

"If there is not a router or modem, then you aren't going to be able to reach the Internet. Since you say that utorrent is working, but slow, which indicates that you can reach the Internet, then there is a modem or router at your location."

As far as I know I have lan card, do NOT have modem, and maybe router(don't blame me I'm not internet expert).I don't have a router in my home, maybe it is something that my provider has.

"If you have a network cable connected to your computer, where does it go? Does it just go into a port on the wall or does it go into some other device. If it goes into some other device, that will usually be a network hub, switch, modem, or router. If it goes into another device that you can see, what is that device?"

The cable is from my lan card (in my pc) to the internet provider.
I'm not exactly sure, but I'm 90% sure it is a switch, but it may be also hub or routes, as you said.But it is not modem(99% sure).

default gateway is 10.0.0.1

"It also struck me as unusual that you are using a static IP address for the system, since you listed "dhcp enabled...no", if this is a home system, since most home users who don't understand networking typically stick with a DHCP address provided by their router or modem. Though perpaps you are at a business or school location, where someone else is responsible for the router or other gateway device, which is why you aren't aware of the presence of a router or modem at that location. I'm assuming someone else set up the IP configuration for your system."

I can not tell you exactly but I think I have static, and I'm at home.

"Is your performance always slow? I.e. do you sometimes see a green icon rather than a red icon? Is the icon only red when you use a particular tracker? If you only have the problem with a particular tracker that could be a network or server congestion problem related to that particular system rather than anything that can be fixed at your end."

no it is not.
1.when the icon is red, I can download fast, but I can't seed, I see many peers, but I can't connect them.With my speed I will be able to seed around 5gig/day, but I can seed 100-200m/day.
2.From time to time the icon become green, when green I can seed 10-30 times faster.But the icon doesn't become green so often.
3.That is only for this tracker.If I download from other trackers, even if the icon is red I can seed and leach fast... ???

"The Internet Protocol (IP) includes a troubleshooting protocol ICMP, which can help you pinpoint the source of network slowdowns, if, indeed, the problem is not at your end. Windows includes a command, tracert, that uses ICMP which can show you all of the systems between your system and another system. If you only have problems with one tracker and you know its IP address, open a Windows command prompt window and type "tracert" followed by the IP address of that system, such as below, if the system's IP address was 192.20.5.6

tracert 192.20.5.6

You will see numbered lines appear with 3 times listed in milliseconds for each line along with the IP address of the systems along the network path between you and the other system. At the end of each line will be the IP address of a system. The times represent how long it took the system at that "hop" along the network path to respond to an ICMP packet. Your system will send 3 packets to each system so you should see responses on each line."

Where to find the ip address of that tracker, If you mean the ip address of that site...Here is what I did:

I typed the name of the site in who.is, and after that I typed tracert ip.

Yes I saw these lines of information.first 4 lines are 1ms.
from line 5 to line 20 it is from 39 ms to 69 ms.69 is max.
Is that ok?

I really appriciate your help.

[MoonPoint]

I've spent the last few days in family activities, such as putting up our Christmas tree, decorations, and lights and a birthday party for one of my wife's aunts, so didn't have any free time to do much online outside of work for several days. I see you've left a reply a few days ago to the message I posted, but don't know if you perhaps have already solved your problem.

If you haven't and are still checking this forum, you stated that you have a connection from the LAN card in your PC to your Internet provider. If the cable goes into some device your Internet Service Provider (ISP) provided to you then a Google search using the manufacturer and model number for that device will reveal the type of device. But the cause of the problem may not be within that device, be it a router, cable/DSL modem, etc., if you have problems with just the one tracker.

You stated "Yes I saw these lines of information.first 4 lines are 1ms. from line 5 to line 20 it is from 39 ms to 69 ms.69 is max. Is that ok?" If you used the IP address of the tracker and got those values, then "yes", the performance is fairly good. I wouldn't expect there are network congestion issues related to accessing the other system, if the maximum value you saw was 69 milliseconds. If you had seen a value in the hundreds of milliseconds, then there could be some network congestion or a problem with system responsiveness on the other end, but that doesn't seem to be the case from what you reported.

I've never used utorrent, so I'm not familiar with what causes changes in the color of icons in the program and can't tell from the information you've provided where the problem lies. Have you posted any question about the issue in a utorrent forum or have you, perhaps, already resolved the problem?

[johnjohnsonver]

thanks for your reply,

yes I still have this problem

I notices that when I download a torrent, wsile leeching I can seed fast, but when I got 100% seeding stop immediately,

it may be a problem in my utorrent.

I'll be thankful for any help

[wimiadmin]

I would say hitting the uTorrent forum is your best bet now. Your connection is working so it may be something specific with their software.