keeping my dynamic ip

Benjaminf · 08-15-2008, 02:32 PM

hi, i got this simple question is there anyway to keep my dynamic ip the same? when i do the ipconfig /all command, then i can see that my ip lease is evry 2 days, but there has to be a way to keep it longer.

note: i called my isp and a static ip is 89$/month extra, so no thanks.
i also don't want to use "dns.com" sites, because then my ip still changes they're only used for servers anyway (i think).

wimiadmin · 08-16-2008, 07:57 PM

Hi Benjamin,

I suppose you could statically assign whatever your current IP is to your Router or NIC and keep it. But....when you don't release it, your ISP will most likely shut you down.

The next best thing then would be to use a dynamic DNS service. There are serveral out there. I've personally used www.tzo.com in the past and was very happy with their service. I've also read a lot of good things about www.no-ip.com

These dynamic DNS services are not just for servers. You can install their software on your PC which would give you the ability to remote into it via RDP, FTP, HTTP, etc....unless your ISP blocks those specific ports.

There are definitely cheaper solutions out there vs. paying 89 per month.

Brian

AboveTheLogic · 08-16-2008, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wimiadmin

I've also read a lot of good things about www.no-ip.com

These dynamic DNS services are not just for servers. You can install their software on your PC which would give you the ability to remote into it via RDP, FTP, HTTP, etc....unless your ISP blocks those specific ports.

There are definitely cheaper solutions out there vs. paying 89 per month.

Brian

I'll vouch for no-ip.com. I've been using them for years for free, and just have a free dynamic subdomain through them that has worked very well. I run their little program on my machine and it alerts no-ip when my IP changes so they can update their DNS servers.

Port blocking... well.. thats another story.

no-ip will do a port 80 redirect, which works OK, but remote image linking doesn't seem to work through it

Benjaminf · 08-17-2008, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AboveTheLogic

I'll vouch for no-ip.com. I've been using them for years for free, and just have a free dynamic subdomain through them that has worked very well. I run their little program on my machine and it alerts no-ip when my IP changes so they can update their DNS servers.

Port blocking... well.. thats another story.

no-ip will do a port 80 redirect, which works OK, but remote image linking doesn't seem to work through it

yeh i've read alot about those sites, but the problem is that they don't keep ur ip the same.

to Wimiadmin can you explain me how to do the first option, please?
and if they shut me down what do i have to do?

AboveTheLogic · 08-18-2008, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjaminf

yeh i've read alot about those sites, but the problem is that they don't keep ur ip the same.

to Wimiadmin can you explain me how to do the first option, please?
and if they shut me down what do i have to do?

no they don't... but...

Quote:

Originally Posted by AboveTheLogic

I run their little program on my machine and it alerts no-ip when my IP changes so they can update their DNS servers.

http://www.no-ip.com/downloads.php

your ip can change, but your no-ip domain still points to it

wimiadmin · 08-18-2008, 11:06 PM

Hi Benjamin,

If you've got a router, look up the current status for the WAN. Then write down the IP, Subnet, and Gateway. Then, on your router, go to the "how the router gets its ip" section and choose static. Simply put in the numbers you recorded in the previous step and you're done.

Now. Lets say your ISPs DHCP lease time is 2 days. If you hang on to that IP when they refresh their leases, they'll know. And probably shut down your connection. You'll then have to call them and play stupid and say ooops....sorry....I won't do it again. Then on your router, put it back from static to dhcp and reset it. And you'll have the internet back.

It would be less trouble to do something like TZO or no-ip. With TZO, you would create something like yourname.tzo.com and install their software on your computer. About every 5 minutes, your computer will hit the TZO servers and update its IP. So from the outside you'll always be yourname.tzo.com no matter what your IP address is.

That's a lot easier than setting your IP to static and having to call your ISP to reset your account every time.

Brian

Benjaminf · 08-19-2008, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wimiadmin

Hi Benjamin,

If you've got a router, look up the current status for the WAN. Then write down the IP, Subnet, and Gateway. Then, on your router, go to the "how the router gets its ip" section and choose static. Simply put in the numbers you recorded in the previous step and you're done.

Now. Lets say your ISPs DHCP lease time is 2 days. If you hang on to that IP when they refresh their leases, they'll know. And probably shut down your connection. You'll then have to call them and play stupid and say ooops....sorry....I won't do it again. Then on your router, put it back from static to dhcp and reset it. And you'll have the internet back.

It would be less trouble to do something like TZO or no-ip. With TZO, you would create something like yourname.tzo.com and install their software on your computer. About every 5 minutes, your computer will hit the TZO servers and update its IP. So from the outside you'll always be yourname.tzo.com no matter what your IP address is.

That's a lot easier than setting your IP to static and having to call your ISP to reset your account every time.

Brian

aww to bad then there's no way to keep my ip the same

, guess i'll look for an isp that doesn't change my dynamic ip.

AboveTheLogic · 08-19-2008, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjaminf

aww to bad then there's no way to keep my ip the same

, guess i'll look for an isp that doesn't change my dynamic ip.

these guys let you have a static IP:

http://www.keyon.com/

not sure their available or where you are, maybe a similar provider (maybe WIMAX) in your area can help you out

don't wanna give no-ip a try? could be the answer to your prayers...

Benjaminf · 08-22-2008, 06:17 AM

i have a problem now that i can't even keep my ip for the lease period, i leave my router, computer and a ping problem on during the night but it still changed.

can you give me some advice?

"how the router gets its ip" i can't find this anywhere on my router page (192.168.1.1).
i have a belgacom b-box but it would suprise me if you know what that is

wimiadmin · 08-23-2008, 03:35 PM

Even if your lease time is 5 days, if at any time your ISP does maintenance on their DHCP server, your IP lease would then start over and most likely with a new IP address.

Since your IP changes like it does, chances are your router is set to receive the IP via DHCP.

Brian

Benjaminf · 08-24-2008, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wimiadmin

Even if your lease time is 5 days, if at any time your ISP does maintenance on their DHCP server, your IP lease would then start over and most likely with a new IP address.

Since your IP changes like it does, chances are your router is set to receive the IP via DHCP.

Brian

anything i can do about it?

wimiadmin · 08-24-2008, 10:04 AM

I suppose you could take whatever IP/Subnet/Gateway you have now and assign those as static numbers in your router. But, the next time your lease is set to renew and your IP is locked in at your router, your ISP is obviously going to know you didn't release your IP. They'll shut you down. Then, you put your router back to DHCP and you still can't connect.....so you have to make the dreaded phone call to ask why your connection isn't working and they tell you they've flagged your account and if you do it again, they'll shut you down for good....and they happen to be the only high speed internet option in your area so you have no choice but to comply. I'm able to be so detailed with this explanation because it's happened to me before.

Benjaminf · 08-24-2008, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wimiadmin

I suppose you could take whatever IP/Subnet/Gateway you have now and assign those as static numbers in your router. But, the next time your lease is set to renew and your IP is locked in at your router, your ISP is obviously going to know you didn't release your IP. They'll shut you down. Then, you put your router back to DHCP and you still can't connect.....so you have to make the dreaded phone call to ask why your connection isn't working and they tell you they've flagged your account and if you do it again, they'll shut you down for good....and they happen to be the only high speed internet option in your area so you have no choice but to comply. I'm able to be so detailed with this explanation because it's happened to me before.

yes i would like to do that and then change it back to normal settings a day before the lease, but i can't find it anywhere on my router page. maybe you can tell me where to find it? this is how the advanced settings look like:

wimiadmin · 08-24-2008, 03:38 PM

It'll probably be under the WAN section. You'll need to view the current IP, the current Subnet, and the current Gateway.

Once you have those numbers, go to the WAN page and change it from DHCP to Static and plug in your numbers.

Just remember that if they renew the lease before the actual expiration of your current lease, then they're probably going to block you.

It would be so much easier and less hassle if you just signed up at www.no-ip.com and used that method. Then you don't have to worry about lease times, getting blocked, etc.

Brian

doubledave · 09-06-2008, 05:26 PM

I have noticed that the dynamic IP I have gotten from various different ISPs over the years are mostly set to 1 day. But, the IP I had from roadrunner stayed the same for weeks at a time usually even with a 1 day IP renew time length. With my DSL, it seemed to change multiple times per day some of the time and last a week other times.

So, you really never know; as long as the IP lease is set to 1 day, that's the minimum that it would stay the same. You might get lucky and have the same IP for weeks or months.

I use DYNDNS.COM (my router automatically updates the IP assigned to my free domain name) and when I had roadrunner, I could look back at the IP history and see that it did sometimes last longer than a month.

08-15-2008, 02:32 PM	#1
Benjaminf Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 6	keeping my dynamic ip hi, i got this simple question is there anyway to keep my dynamic ip the same? when i do the ipconfig /all command, then i can see that my ip lease is evry 2 days, but there has to be a way to keep it longer. note: i called my isp and a static ip is 89$/month extra, so no thanks. i also don't want to use "dns.com" sites, because then my ip still changes they're only used for servers anyway (i think).

08-22-2008, 06:17 AM	#9
Benjaminf Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 6	i have a problem now that i can't even keep my ip for the lease period, i leave my router, computer and a ping problem on during the night but it still changed. can you give me some advice? "how the router gets its ip" i can't find this anywhere on my router page (192.168.1.1). i have a belgacom b-box but it would suprise me if you know what that is Last edited by Benjaminf; 08-22-2008 at 06:19 AM.

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08-16-2008, 07:57 PM	#2
wimiadmin Administrator Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pigeon Forge, TN Posts: 858	Hi Benjamin, I suppose you could statically assign whatever your current IP is to your Router or NIC and keep it. But....when you don't release it, your ISP will most likely shut you down. The next best thing then would be to use a dynamic DNS service. There are serveral out there. I've personally used www.tzo.com in the past and was very happy with their service. I've also read a lot of good things about www.no-ip.com These dynamic DNS services are not just for servers. You can install their software on your PC which would give you the ability to remote into it via RDP, FTP, HTTP, etc....unless your ISP blocks those specific ports. There are definitely cheaper solutions out there vs. paying 89 per month. Brian

08-18-2008, 11:06 PM	#6
wimiadmin Administrator Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pigeon Forge, TN Posts: 858	Hi Benjamin, If you've got a router, look up the current status for the WAN. Then write down the IP, Subnet, and Gateway. Then, on your router, go to the "how the router gets its ip" section and choose static. Simply put in the numbers you recorded in the previous step and you're done. Now. Lets say your ISPs DHCP lease time is 2 days. If you hang on to that IP when they refresh their leases, they'll know. And probably shut down your connection. You'll then have to call them and play stupid and say ooops....sorry....I won't do it again. Then on your router, put it back from static to dhcp and reset it. And you'll have the internet back. It would be less trouble to do something like TZO or no-ip. With TZO, you would create something like yourname.tzo.com and install their software on your computer. About every 5 minutes, your computer will hit the TZO servers and update its IP. So from the outside you'll always be yourname.tzo.com no matter what your IP address is. That's a lot easier than setting your IP to static and having to call your ISP to reset your account every time. Brian

08-23-2008, 03:35 PM	#10
wimiadmin Administrator Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pigeon Forge, TN Posts: 858	Even if your lease time is 5 days, if at any time your ISP does maintenance on their DHCP server, your IP lease would then start over and most likely with a new IP address. Since your IP changes like it does, chances are your router is set to receive the IP via DHCP. Brian

08-24-2008, 10:04 AM	#12
wimiadmin Administrator Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pigeon Forge, TN Posts: 858	I suppose you could take whatever IP/Subnet/Gateway you have now and assign those as static numbers in your router. But, the next time your lease is set to renew and your IP is locked in at your router, your ISP is obviously going to know you didn't release your IP. They'll shut you down. Then, you put your router back to DHCP and you still can't connect.....so you have to make the dreaded phone call to ask why your connection isn't working and they tell you they've flagged your account and if you do it again, they'll shut you down for good....and they happen to be the only high speed internet option in your area so you have no choice but to comply. I'm able to be so detailed with this explanation because it's happened to me before.

08-24-2008, 03:38 PM	#14
wimiadmin Administrator Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pigeon Forge, TN Posts: 858	It'll probably be under the WAN section. You'll need to view the current IP, the current Subnet, and the current Gateway. Once you have those numbers, go to the WAN page and change it from DHCP to Static and plug in your numbers. Just remember that if they renew the lease before the actual expiration of your current lease, then they're probably going to block you. It would be so much easier and less hassle if you just signed up at www.no-ip.com and used that method. Then you don't have to worry about lease times, getting blocked, etc. Brian

09-06-2008, 05:26 PM	#15
doubledave Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 6	I have noticed that the dynamic IP I have gotten from various different ISPs over the years are mostly set to 1 day. But, the IP I had from roadrunner stayed the same for weeks at a time usually even with a 1 day IP renew time length. With my DSL, it seemed to change multiple times per day some of the time and last a week other times. So, you really never know; as long as the IP lease is set to 1 day, that's the minimum that it would stay the same. You might get lucky and have the same IP for weeks or months. I use DYNDNS.COM (my router automatically updates the IP assigned to my free domain name) and when I had roadrunner, I could look back at the IP history and see that it did sometimes last longer than a month.